Chinese futur clone

Palmolive fox said:
yes the vendor quite rightly knows what he or she are selling,in this case it's my belief that the main seller/vendor has told the senders, the products they are sending ,are/where the adjustable Qshave razor..it wasn't until everyone who fell for the scam,and complained about it that the vendor relised that they had dug a big hole for themselves and had no other alternative, then to give a full refund...

As for giving good feedback for the refund, i was perfectly clear to them that i wouldn't go along with the devious Charade they have tried to unsuccessfully pull off the only credit i gave them ,which wasn't really credit in a round about way,was..that they have admitted a fault and had no other alternative than to give a full refund..they have created a huge amount of bad feedback for themselves by doing this.'People remember you for the bad things you do, not the the good things'!..So in end the damage has been caused by 'talkquikly' themselves... However,No one will ever stop this, because they just open a new account, different name, different devious con..Ebay should have them banned...it's very hard to to do so.. At the end of the day at least we've been refunded,so no harm done.Regards.
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The problem is that eBay allows drop shipping, an arrangement between the eBay seller and wholesaler or manufacturer which allows for sales without stock in hand. So in this case the deceit may originate with the drop shipper rather than the eBay seller who may merely be negligent in dealing with a scamming supplier. That shipper seems not to be QShave since they are in Shenzen and these shipments originate elsewhere.

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jmudrick said:
The problem is that eBay allows drop shipping, an arrangement between the eBay seller and wholesaler or manufacturer which allows for sales without stock in hand. So in this case the deceit may originate with the drop shipper rather than the eBay seller who may merely be negligent in dealing with a scamming supplier. That shipper seems not to be QShave since they are in Shenzen and these shipments originate elsewhere.

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Well said, I will be very wary of too good to be true Ebay offers in the future.. Once bitten, twice shy...
 
chris.hale said:
On the upside, my order from AliExpress has landed in Blighty and is in the hands of the Royal Mail. :)
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Mine is at the Regional Distribution Centre in the U.K. So far so good and if this is typical of AliExpress purchases they will get more of my custom for sure. Quite like the look of the Titan Razors and there were a couple of brushes that drew my attention.

In fact, what the hell !!! Just ordered this for a grand sum of £3.45.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bla...lgo_pvid=e4e2f5fd-6c51-47b2-98ef-7d56e017f317
 
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jmudrick said:
One of many threads on QC /inherent design issues of the Merkur Futur. Don't Blame The Clone.

https://www.badgerandblade.com/foru...-merkur-futur-has-more-blade-exposure.488486/

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my Futur has no lateral movement and the blade gap and exposure are exactly the same on both sides. The Mingshi is simply not as well made and the spring less tight. It does however shave beautifully and I enjoyed using it and that is all that matters.
 
David68 said:
my Futur has no lateral movement and the blade gap and exposure are exactly the same on both sides. The Mingshi is simply not as well made and the spring less tight. It does however shave beautifully and I enjoyed using it and that is all that matters.
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Your perfect Futur is no more compelling evidence of Merkur's QC than my perfect QShave. I've owned three Merkurs and I'd describe the fit of two of the three as poor, and I've also seen enough threads on both Progress and Futur to know if you have one that's perfect in fit and calibration you can count yourself fortunate.

That being said I don't doubt that the MingShi uses inferior materials. Whether that matters a wit we'll know in 20 years I guess. Personally, I'm glad it weighs less, as a head shaver I consider that an advantage and one of the reasons I never would consider the Merkur version.

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Last updates:
- the supposed Futur clone (but likely to be Nanjie) ordered from a Thai ebay seller (girlqueen), who's probably a part of the big Chinese razor money scheme, is still on its way...
- the Qshave bought from an AliXpress seller (Lucy Dong) is now in NW London (Blackmore, Princess Royal distribution centre), so hopefully it will be on my doorstep anytime soon.
 
Northam Saint said:
Mine is at the Regional Distribution Centre in the U.K. So far so good and if this is typical of AliExpress purchases they will get more of my custom for sure. Quite like the look of the Titan Razors and there were a couple of brushes that drew my attention.

In fact, what the hell !!! Just ordered this for a grand sum of £3.45.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bla...lgo_pvid=e4e2f5fd-6c51-47b2-98ef-7d56e017f317
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Shame. Had I known I could have given you mine.
It's an OK brush (not as good as the infamous Tomtop to me). I found out that it started to perform better when I increased the splay by leaving the brush upside down with a bit of weight on the handle.
 
Like many others, I bought the Futur clone from Talkquikly, an ebay vendor, and like others it hasn't arrived so I contacted the seller and received a prompt response:

Hi dear,
We wish to apologize for all inconvenience we caused.
The item you ordered is Men's Adjustable Safety Razor Double Edge Safety Pack 1 Handle&1 Blades.

We are sorry to say our colleague put wrong pictures for this item before. We fixed it already now.
This is our fault and we must be responsible for the item .

How about we refund you 100% and is there any possible that you could keep it when you receive it later?
We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this incident may have caused to you
Look forward to your reply.

I replied saying that I'd like the refund including postage. I'll post again if I actually get a refund. I sort of don't believe the seller - the clue is in the word "adjustable", which the item they are now showing is not - but I kind of think they messed up rather than set out to defraud.
 
This is my turn to receive some kind of customer relationship management message from the Thai ebay seller, accessory to the Nanjie razor scam:
Dear customer,
How are you?
Sorry to disturb you for a moment.
It has passed some days since you purchased from our store. Did you receive your item?
If you still don't receive it, please don't hesitate to let us know, we'd like to full refund or resend as compensation.
If you have received it, is there any problem when you using it ? Does it work well? Please also let us know.
We will try our best to help you and we are always at your service.
Thank you for your time.
Looking forward to your reply.
All best Regards,
Your sincerely,
Customer Service Dept

I'll wait for the deadline (tomorrow) before asking for a refund/compensation; planning to buy a second hand book about British wit with it, so the end might not be that bad all in all.

On the other hand, the real Qshave from AliXpress is ready for delivery today, so since I'm home today, I'm wondering whether I should shave this morning or wait for the delivery. Decisions, decisions...
 
Cristobal said:
...On the other hand, the real Qshave from AliXpress is ready for delivery today, so since I'm home today, I'm wondering whether I should shave this morning or wait for the delivery. Decisions, decisions...
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Perhaps you should prepare a placard to protest in front of the Chinese Embassy.


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