Anyone here win this razor?

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I was looking at this razor for most of the week, well about a day before the auction ended I asked the seller how wide the blade was, well when he said over 1in I was surprised how little interest was shown, now If I didn't have to many razors and quite a few restores plus razors in for honing I would have said this razor would have made a great project for someone, I could see that big blade looking rather impressive in some lovely horn. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antique-Cut-Throat-Razor-by-William-Rodgers-19th-century-in-orig-case-/290859338991?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEDWX%3AIT&nma=true&si=Lov6BJOXn5wXMhBB8LV2g0JjPGs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Jamie
 
pugh-the-special-one said:
John said:
Not me bud I totally missed out on that :mad:

They are all keeping very quite John, perhaps they don't want to spill the beans, who ever put in the winning bid won a really good blade IMO.

Jamie

I'm totally envious of the lucky so and so I was looking at the vintage straights and missed that one all together,yes that blade has the X factor all right :icon_cry2:
 
I have had a number of them, Jamie - two good, one a throw-away. Glenn from SRD (GSsixgun) seems to think that Joseph Fenton & Sons are the makers, but I have never been able to confirm that. All they have is VOOGD in little shields like jewellers marks on one side and 'Hollow Ground' on the other. I can't see why JF didn't put their corporate marks or name or Sheffield on the tang - they wanted to sell razors, right? To me, the razors looked vaguely continental. In fact all three came from a bulk load of razors (50 or so) I bought from a guy in France - happy days!

The three I had were all big, meaty choppers, but quite coarse in an indefinable way - they just seemed 'hulking' and a bit crude rather than large and fine. The finish wasn't anything to get excited about and the steel, although taking a fairly good edge, was not exceptional.

I don't think they have any great age - the scales on the one in the Ebay listing are horn, but don't look original - they have had the ends filed down, so the razor must have come from another set of scales or been taken out of the horn ones. All three of the ones I had were in some sort of composite - xylonite, hard rubber or bakelite.

I'd save the money for a better razor with a bit of pedigree. It is certainly not a William Rodgers (it's box is though!), and I don't think it is a Fenton - I might be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that Glenn's one was in a JF box at one time. You can't trust boxes. I really should ask Glenn about it - he might know for sure one way or the other.

Regards,
Neil
 
Well, I got in touch with Glen and he told me he got the info from someone else, so it looks like he was misinformed.

I have found a company called R. Hovenden & Sons who were mainly famous for selling human hair and making wigs. The company was dissolved and re-arranged several times, but the definitive firm dates from 1896 (although they give a date of 1811 in their advertisements).

In the early 1900s they advertised themselves as 'Manufacturers, Perfumers, Wholesale & Export" and specialised in 'cheapness' combined with 'quality' - in one of their adverts they advertised 'B. Cowvan straight razors and strops' and 'VOOGD's scissors and razors.' In the early days they made their own razors under the R. Hovenden mark - or had them made for them.

They also sold toiletries, pharmaceuticals, curlers, walking sticks, mirrors, combs, patent medicines, strops, tobacconists sundries, cutlery, brushes, clippers, cigars, pipes, umbrellas, clippers, etc, etc, etc - obviously they could not manufacture all these items themselves. Their trade catalogue was over 600 pages long.

Some people believe that the B. Cowvan razors were actually made by Hovenden, but I have no proof either way, and the same applies to Voogd razors. Voogd seems to be quite a common word in Holland, being dutch for 'guardian' and also a surname. I have owned one Cowvan razor - sturdy, but a bit middle-of-the-road.

They were still in business in the 1940s, and the Voogd razors I had came from around then, or a little earlier. Glen has told me that he has had a few, and that they seemed like nice razors. I have seen a smaller, more delicate one on an auction site that looked as if it was from around 1900 - 1920, quite unlike the crude big choppers I had.

So - still a mystery, except that mystery is whether there was a company called Voogd or whether Hovenden owned the mark and made the razors.

Regards,
Neil
 
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