RANT! about cars overtaking cyclists

There is a cycle path that runs along side the road for several miles too, but a lot of them don't use it.

There's a possible explanation for that ........ I base it on my personal experience of urban 'bike lanes'; more specifically, those along the route of my daily commute. The lanes in question are either painted into the road or run parallel to the road, with entry and exit points at junctions. The reason I personally won't ride in or on them, is that they represent the absolutely worst kept part of the road surface. Practically every bit of debris .... glass, road shrapnel, nuts and bolts from passing bangers ...... gets kicked outwards and into these lanes. Not only are you riding on a road surface that feels like corrugated iron on tires pumped up to 110psi, making every tooth rattle, but you're also hoping said tires don't end up looking like something out of Mad Max after running through all the debris that lives there.

Bike lanes are a good idea ....... I just find it safer not to use them.
 
There is a bike path near where I live, entirely distinct from the main road. It's surface isn't great, but not much (if any) worse than the main road. It's equally flat and, in most parts, smoother. I have noticed that there's a large volume of people who fail to use it but I can't put my finger on why. As long as they're taking all precautions to stay safe (hi-vis, helmet, lights, proper maintenance of their bike etc.) then I have no qualms. In fact, there is a bike path which perimeters much of south Wales.

As the videos above show, there are some jacked-up anuses around who have no better time than to argue with others despite being in the wrong. I've been threatened twice in the last couple of months after telling people to get off their phone. One hounded me in a rental car, probably topping 70mph in a single carriageway, amongst a housing establishment so he could hurl abuse and throw coins at me. Another squared up to me after I said he shouldn't use a phone in a petrol station. People have their set views and nothing else is right.

I can only see it going back to my initial summary. All road users should take due care and attention to stay safe. It's not (usually) a lack of trying that puts people at risk but a lack of understanding. The road is there for all vehicles, motorised, equine or otherwise, to use.

Some people, especially around country lanes, have to walk along the roadside. It can often include blind bends, narrow roads etc. with people haring down them. If I come across someone walking on the wrong side of the road (with the flow of traffic rather than against), I'll happily notify them that it's better for them to walk on the other side. It's almost always well received.

On another aside, the lack of understanding can be prevalent on motorways as well. There's a focus on people tailgating and middle-lane-hogging which police are attempting to crack down on. Another motorway-themed example is when people break down and have to pull over to the hard shoulder. I've often seen people standing directly next to their vehicles, or in front of their vehicles, rather than behind and away from them. My family broke down once on the way back from London and my ma's initial thought was to stay in the car, as being in a metal box is 'safer'. I told her that, if we're in a car, there's a far bigger object to hit, so the likelihood of being clipped by a lorry driver who isn't fully concentrating is higher. She then said, move away from the car up the road, to which I said, if our car does get clipped, there's another object which would be hurtling towards us as well as whatever clipped it. I explained that behind the car, away from it, is safest as you can have an unimpeded view of the traffic and, should evasive action be required, you're a much smaller object and able to move.

Tl, dr; Keep yourself safe, there's no harm brushing up on the do's and don't's!
 
Well didn't that go off in a different direction!
Country cyclists and city cyclists seem to be quite different beasts (even if they are the same people). I've had to drag the kids out from in front of bikes on the pavement - and was most unhappy about it. As @JohnnyO says a push iron can make a mess of you if it hits. Most of the ones on the lanes seem pretty sensible even if they are occasionally in peloton formation.
But mainly I'm a car driver and feel the responsibility of driving a ton or more of metal round at guaranteed lethal to the unprotected speeds.
 
Believe you've summed up the essence of this, and most driver/rider/walker problems in a nutshell Count. You maintain a ' sense of responsibility ' ; many prefer to exercise a ' sense of entitlement ' . No way to legislate human nature.

JohnnyO. o/
I couldn't have put it any better if I tried.
 
Believe you've summed up the essence of this, and most driver/rider/walker problems in a nutshell Count. You maintain a ' sense of responsibility ' ; many prefer to exercise a ' sense of entitlement ' . No way to legislate human nature.

JohnnyO. o/
The Left has been trying to do that for decades! Drive as if you're going to encounter a cyclist or horse around every blind bend.
 
In my previous job I travelled to Birmingham on a regular basis and part of my journey took me along a dual carriageway that had been turned into a single lane and a cycle lane in both directions. I was regularly stuck in traffic on that road which is part of life when driving. What really wound me up was the fact that I NEVER saw a cyclist. Not once in either cycle lane. I asked one of my colleagues about this lane and he said it was a complete waste of time as he can count on the finger of one hand how many times he had seen a cyclist on the lanes and he lived there!

There are bus lanes in most major cities that are bus lanes at all times when there is absolutely no need and they only cause more congestion.

My next rant is about traffic lane discipline. Many years ago when Terminal 5 was being built the M25 in the area was made a no-overtaking zone with cameras above all lanes. Traffic flowed beautifully even at rush hour and it made the whole area so much less of a pain in the backside. The day they took the cameras down, chaos ensued and traffic ground to a halt. Everyday on my commute I see morons driving like bats out of hell and cutting in to the left lane and off the motorway at the last possible moment, I see so many drivers cutting in and out of lanes or worse still hogging the middle lane. If drivers actually used lanes 2 and 3 as overtaking lanes and moved into the left lane when safe to do so, traffic would flow so much more smoothly.

I cannot blame cyclists for the majority of my moans and groans but i will try!
 
Chaps can we keep NSFW in the NSFW thread? I don't want to appear fussy but I work in a place where young women walk past my desk, I'm 51 the youngest women who works here is 24 and I've worked with her since she was 16; I'm really not up for her seeing smut on my screen, it makes me feel like some sort of creepy old man.
 
Chaps can we keep NSFW in the NSFW thread? I don't want to appear fussy but I work in a place where young women walk past my desk, I'm 51 the youngest women who works here is 24 and I've worked with her since she was 16; I'm really not up for her seeing smut on my screen, it makes me feel like some sort of creepy old man.

Agreed, lovely bottom but I'd rather it was in the NSFW thread.
 
There's a possible explanation for that ........ I base it on my personal experience of urban 'bike lanes'; more specifically, those along the route of my daily commute. The lanes in question are either painted into the road or run parallel to the road, with entry and exit points at junctions. The reason I personally won't ride in or on them, is that they represent the absolutely worst kept part of the road surface. Practically every bit of debris .... glass, road shrapnel, nuts and bolts from passing bangers ...... gets kicked outwards and into these lanes. Not only are you riding on a road surface that feels like corrugated iron on tires pumped up to 110psi, making every tooth rattle, but you're also hoping said tires don't end up looking like something out of Mad Max after running through all the debris that lives there.

Bike lanes are a good idea ....... I just find it safer not to use them.

In this case, the bike lane runs parallel with the road but is separated from it by several feet of grass. I've never ridden on it myself, but as it only went down in the last couple of years and is only for cycles it should be in good nick.

I completely understand about the urban ones though.
 
99.99% of businesses that I know of block Internet usage by employees at work as human nature being what it is they piddle their time away looking at shoes, porn or..........................shaving forums. ;)
 
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