Rocnel SE review(s)

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I thought I'd create this thread so we could add our collective thoughts on the Rocnel SE razor as they begin to show up in people's mailboxes.

I was one of the fortunate ones that were part of an early delivery round of the razor (don't worry - I still paid full price :)) and received mine today.

Some quick data points to get out of the way:

Price
Razor and one handle: $25
Shipping to the US: $8 or 10 (this may be fine tuned as Murat decided on final shipping option but it should be around that).
Payment: You get a Paypal invoice

Delivery schedule for pre-orders
The last I heard, back in February was as follows;
March - Domestic deliveries
April - Domestic and starting North America deliveries
May - North America deliveries
June - North America and Europe deliveries

(@ckeskin If you have any updates on that please do let us know)

Material: 316 Stainless steel

Country of Origin: Turkey

Level of awesomeness: High

The razor arrived approx 2-3 weeks after settling the invoice.

Initial impressions:

The razor arrives in a very nice, thick cardboard box with a waxed seal/stamp on a Rocnel tag.
It all looks very professional.
(My one comment here to Murat/Rocnel would be to maybe either skip the seal/stamp or place it inside a small plastic pouch. Mine had broken in transit and I had a gazillion small red pieces all throughout the box. Not a big issue of course but it did take a bit to clean out from the razor :) ).

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Inside the box was a hand written note from Murat.
It's quite possible it's a string of four-letter words but I choose to believe that it praises me and my early order. (@ckeskin no need to correct me if I'm wrong :) ).
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And there it finally was...the beast from Turkey.....The Rocnel SE!
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As you can see above I got both handles - the knurled one as well as the smooth Pils-looking one.
More about those later.

Quick first impressions:
* Man, it's heavy and solid
* Feels great
* Great machining
* How is this $25?
* I need to shave...I just need to remember how to load it

I think the last point is actually rather relevant. How DO you load the razor?
It can be a bit risky to send the razor out w/out any instructions as this is quite a different razor as far as loading and blade handing goes. Ideally I would have loved for there to be a one page of 4-5 illustrations showing how to break the DE and then load - and unload the blade into the razor.
Personally I think I will just go back and look at Cihan's video on youtube before I load a blade in it tomorrow.

Let's talk about the handles and how they attach to the head a bit.
As you can see in the photo below the handle each comes with a screw.
This stainless steel screw can be fully removed from both the handle and head and there lies a potential issue if you are not careful - it appears as if the threads in the handle are deep enough so that the screw could accidentally be screwed into it so far that you would have a problem getting it out.
Now, I didn't actually test that fully as I chickened out and didn't let it go all the way in.
When screwed into the head it automatically stops at a preset depth though and then its easy to mount the handle to the head.

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Knurled handle
The knurled one feels very, very safe when held. The knurling is quite honestly superb.

Look at this pattern in rather extreme closeup:
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It's a very attractive razor in a functional, almost industrial way.
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Smooth handle
Now the smooth handle is the same size as the knurled one. It feels just a tad heavier but that might just be perception more than anything. It does feel very, very elegant though. It's an extremely well machined handle. One of my pet peeves with razors is that the more inexpensive ones 'squeek' a bit when you screw the handle onto the head - the Rocnel is smooth as butter.

Now, I do own some razors with a completely smooth handle such as the Pils and never had any issue with holding on to it during shaving so that is not a big concern of mine.

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Gratuitous photos:
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The head
It has two stamps on it - one on each side;

"2016"
(The dark spots you may see are not imperfections in the steel but actually tiny fragments of the wax seal. It cleaned right off).
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and "P"
(I remember that Murat will down the road be making three different heads - Mild, Medium and Aggressive). I believe this is the Medium one)
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So there you have it - a rather quick 'first impressions' of the Rocnel SE.
I am so far highly impressed by the looks and feel of the razor and how it all fits together.

If there's an interest I'll post a shaving report tomorrow and add some photos of the blade loaded in it as well as some size-comparison photos to some well known razors.


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Nice @Darkbulb.
Was the option for both handles in the invoice?

As I was part of that 'early delivery group' I think the ordering was different than it will be normally (we went back and forth over email).

My understanding is that you enter handle option in the Paypal note when you send in payment. I am however not sure how you would add the stand for instance as that would now change the $25 invoice amount.

I've sent this, and the TSD link, to Murat who might well be looking them over for questions such as these.
 
SHAVE REPORT #1

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This morning I had the first shave with the Rocnel SE and below is a short recap of how I felt loading the razor - and shaving with it.

First of all let me tell you - this razor has quite the 'buzz' about it.
I have never received as many private messages on Twitter and Instagram asking me for more information about the razor than what I have in the past day.
The most common questions are;
"Is it really $25?",
"Where can I get one?", and (my favorite)
"Why do you have one and I don't!?' :)

Preparing and loading the blade
The razor takes a regular DE blade snapped in half.
I haven't broken off DE blades a lot of times but it's neither a cumbersome nor very dangerous thing to do.
I find that it's easier if you leave the blade inside it's wax-paper wrapping and simply gently bend it - it will then simply gently break off giving you two pieces.

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I did have some hesitation as far as actually loading the blade. I just couldn't see how it would hold it safely - especially when shaving.
I inserted the blade (still with the tabs on) into the razor and...as by pure Turkish magic the razor "grabbed onto' the blade.
It was securely seated (believe me...I shook it, prodded it and tapped it on various items - and the razor stayed put).
I wouldn't call it a 'click' when I inserted it but there was a firm 'grasp' indicating that the razor was seated correctly.
I have no idea how Murat designed this but I assume the curve that the head forces onto the blade asserts some pressure grasp onto it.

You might be able to tell a bit about the blade exposure in the image below
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Snapping off the tabs on the end was simply a matter of taking my thumb and gently pressing down and they fell off.

Below are some close-ups of the end of the razor showing a bit of how the blade is seated.
(Btw, this is some really excellent machining)
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Before I headed off to shave I also wanted to see how well the head can be paired with other handles....

On a Wolfman handle:
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On a Tradere handle:
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Finally here's the Rocnel w/ it's handle mounted compared to some familiar razors to provide a sense of scale.
From left to right: Gillette Slim, Rocnel SE and Gillette NEW:
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Sorry for having you go through all that but I wanted to provide a little bit more about the razor and blade loading before getting in to the shave report - but, here it is:

The Shave
Lathered up some Soap Commander Endurance with a New Forest brush and picked up the razor (loaded with an Astra SP - well, half of one).
First impression is that it's a heavy razor (solid stainless steel who would have thought :) ) but being used to razors like the Mongoose, King Cobra, etc that in itself was not a concern.
I went with the knurled handle for this shave but will switch to the smooth one tomorrow.

First pass - WTG
Finding the angle was easy. I basically used the same angle as I do with a DE razor which surprised me a bit as I for some reason had anticipated me having to have the head more flat against the face as with a SE razor. First few strokes down the side of my face and any concerns I had about the blade moving around were gone - the blade is very, very safely seated in the head.

Finished off my first pass and could tell that it's a rather mild razor. I don't know if I could cut myself with it (I didn't try too hard to do so) but it did absolutely feel like it was on the milder side of things. If Murat comes out with a head that is a tad more aggressive I will be all over that!

Second pass - ATG
Equally straightforward and easy to pick up on the angle to use. The razor also does a very good job getting in and cleaning up some of my trouble spots like under my nose and right under my chin.
I do wish that the handle was longer. I know that is a very subjective thing but the heavy head would, to me, had benefited from a longer handle that could extend a bit further into my hand. Having said that - the head does accept other handles so it might just be a matter of pairing it with the subjectively perfect one.
The knurling on the handle felt great. Not too pronounced so that it felt uncomfortable but enough for it to provide a very solid grip.

After two passes I was clean shaven and I mean clean shaven. A very nice result.
I don't think it's necessarily as efficient as say King Cobra with a Pro blade (that combo gives me a very close shave in one single pass) - but the pro as far as the Rocnel goes is that it balances 'safety'/security (in it's mild shave) with efficiency very well - resulting in a razor that is fun to use, a bit different and will have you out the door with a close shave and no nicks.

I'm a tad obsessive about cleaning out my razors after the shave and I did the same with the Rocnel.
Taking out the blade was surprisingly easy - just push/tug a tiny bit on the side of the head and the blade slides right out (how does it stay so safely in there during the shave?).
A quick rinse and all soap residue was gone.

So would I recommend it?
Completely, fully, wholeheartedly - yes.

This is not a "$25 razor".
Not only is the design fantastic - but it's also a fully machined stainless steel razor that shaves really well.
Great job and kudos to Murat and his partners over at Rocnel for bringing this to market at the price point it's at.
I remember reading some time ago that Murat's vision back then was to 'bring a high quality - yet affordable - razor to the market".
He did.

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Thank you Darkbulb, a fantastic review and a great service to the wider community. Like everyone else and their uncle, I want one! I think they look fantastic and I especially love it paired with the knurled handle.
 
SHAVE REPORT #1

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This morning I had the first shave with the Rocnel SE and below is a short recap of how I felt loading the razor - and shaving with it.

First of all let me tell you - this razor has quite the 'buzz' about it.
I have never received as many private messages on Twitter and Instagram asking me for more information about the razor than what I have in the past day.
The most common questions are;
"Is it really $25?",
"Where can I get one?", and (my favorite)
"Why do you have one and I don't!?' :)

Preparing and loading the blade
The razor takes a regular DE blade snapped in half.
I haven't broken off DE blades a lot of times but it's neither a cumbersome nor very dangerous thing to do.
I find that it's easier if you leave the blade inside it's wax-paper wrapping and simply gently bend it - it will then simply gently break off giving you two pieces.

20r9014.jpg


I did have some hesitation as far as actually loading the blade. I just couldn't see how it would hold it safely - especially when shaving.
I inserted the blade (still with the tabs on) into the razor and...as by pure Turkish magic the razor "grabbed onto' the blade.
It was securely seated (believe me...I shook it, prodded it and tapped it on various items - and the razor stayed put).
I wouldn't call it a 'click' when I inserted it but there was a firm 'grasp' indicating that the razor was seated correctly.
I have no idea how Murat designed this but I assume the curve that the head forces onto the blade asserts some pressure grasp onto it.

You might be able to tell a bit about the blade exposure in the image below
20zvfc4.jpg


Snapping off the tabs on the end was simply a matter of taking my thumb and gently pressing down and they fell off.

Below are some close-ups of the end of the razor showing a bit of how the blade is seated.
(Btw, this is some really excellent machining)
33as2uq.jpg


2aadj41.jpg



Before I headed off to shave I also wanted to see how well the head can be paired with other handles....

On a Wolfman handle:
hx6ntj.jpg

2z5ip3m.jpg



On a Tradere handle:
b7yrlc.jpg

vinu2o.jpg


Finally here's the Rocnel w/ it's handle mounted compared to some familiar razors to provide a sense of scale.
From left to right: Gillette Slim, Rocnel SE and Gillette NEW:
11awv4m.jpg


Sorry for having you go through all that but I wanted to provide a little bit more about the razor and blade loading before getting in to the shave report - but, here it is:

The Shave
Lathered up some Soap Commander Endurance with a New Forest brush and picked up the razor (loaded with an Astra SP - well, half of one).
First impression is that it's a heavy razor (solid stainless steel who would have thought :) ) but being used to razors like the Mongoose, King Cobra, etc that in itself was not a concern.
I went with the knurled handle for this shave but will switch to the smooth one tomorrow.

First pass - WTG
Finding the angle was easy. I basically used the same angle as I do with a DE razor which surprised me a bit as I for some reason had anticipated me having to have the head more flat against the face as with a SE razor. First few strokes down the side of my face and any concerns I had about the blade moving around were gone - the blade is very, very safely seated in the head.

Finished off my first pass and could tell that it's a rather mild razor. I don't know if I could cut myself with it (I didn't try too hard to do so) but it did absolutely feel like it was on the milder side of things. If Murat comes out with a head that is a tad more aggressive I will be all over that!

Second pass - ATG
Equally straightforward and easy to pick up on the angle to use. The razor also does a very good job getting in and cleaning up some of my trouble spots like under my nose and right under my chin.
I do wish that the handle was longer. I know that is a very subjective thing but the heavy head would, to me, had benefited from a longer handle that could extend a bit further into my hand. Having said that - the head does accept other handles so it might just be a matter of pairing it with the subjectively perfect one.
The knurling on the handle felt great. Not too pronounced so that it felt uncomfortable but enough for it to provide a very solid grip.

After two passes I was clean shaven and I mean clean shaven. A very nice result.
I don't think it's necessarily as efficient as say King Cobra with a Pro blade (that combo gives me a very close shave in one single pass) - but the pro as far as the Rocnel goes is that it balances 'safety'/security (in it's mild shave) with efficiency very well - resulting in a razor that is fun to use, a bit different and will have you out the door with a close shave and no nicks.

I'm a tad obsessive about cleaning out my razors after the shave and I did the same with the Rocnel.
Taking out the blade was surprisingly easy - just push/tug a tiny bit on the side of the head and the blade slides right out (how does it stay so safely in there during the shave?).
A quick rinse and all soap residue was gone.

So would I recommend it?
Completely, fully, wholeheartedly - yes.

This is not a "$25 razor".
Not only is the design fantastic - but it's also a fully machined stainless steel razor that shaves really well.
Great job and kudos to Murat and his partners over at Rocnel for bringing this to market at the price point it's at.
I remember reading some time ago that Murat's vision back then was to 'bring a high quality - yet affordable - razor to the market".
He did.

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I reckon I could quite easily Adapt that to take a Cut Down Feather Pro or a Standard Injector Blade with a Dremel..:eek:

Billy
 
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