NATO watch straps ... a spot of advice please.

^^ The Casio .... I like. But then you knew I would :)

Had a quick look at a few Amazon comments and wonder if the back comes off easily to change the battery, and if you wanted to use a different strap is that possible? given the nature of this topic I guess I'm thinking a cheapy NATO

But at £12 maybe we shouldn't be worrying about any of this?

PS. Was previously unaware of the word quotidian:) Must remember to drop it in to regular daily use.

EDIT. Just spotted it has four screws holding the back on therefore a battery swap seems very possible if needed.

I think it is pretty easy to replace the battery, you could even put some silicon grease on the seal. As for the strap, I would keep the original, because it is comfortable and the lug width is 16mm, so even if you changed the strap the watch would look ridiculously big (and not in a JB/Goldfinger/submariner way).

'quotidian': due to the fact that English language has around 30% words of French origin and 10-20% of Latin, it is often way easier for us, French to use the words that are close the ones we use regularly in French (quotidien>quotidian). Moreover, it sounds often formal (I must have scored many points when I sat for English exams such as CAE and CPE). Oddly enough, in France, when taught English, we are forbidden to use them...
 
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Ta for the above.... all noted. Including the explanation of that word I'd never heard of.:)

Was interested that you mentioned silicone grease as I've been doing for years but always thought it was a bit "against the rules" and not approved. I try only to apply a smidgen - but doubt Rolex would approve.

Point taken re. the strap. Ta.
 

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Yet again I say a big thank you for all the above, really helpful, replies and photos.

I just realised I have FOUR similar or same field style watches ... two identical green face 18mm Pulsars, one similar (but not identical) 18mm black face Pulsar - and one 20mm black face Seiko. None cost a lot but I'm very fond and all keep fabulously good time. The "InTime" franchise in Debenhams have done a couple of repairs /new glasses and are really good, so I'm confident that all the time they're there (never guaranteed these days) then I can keep them all running. I fit my own batteries and sometimes fit a new (lightly greased) gasket and rarely hanker after anything else.

Maybe sometimes the novelty of something Kinetic or Eco-Drive but it would still be the same field style as they're so clear and easy to tell the time by. Maybe this sort of thing ...

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/2513...MIx4rSq_P-2wIVDrftCh3hUQZ4EAQYAyABEgIRzvD_BwE



I've ordered the two-piece nylons as noted above but will go for a couple of different NATOs just to keep up with the Jones's ( not sure whether RAF or G10 yet) and perhaps a 20mm deployment from TF.
I bought one of those about 15 odd years ago, funnily enough I only went looking for it because I had a NATO strap fitted that I wanted to try on the Explorer. I probably haven't seen that watch for 4 years but it started up again as soon as sunlight hit it. Quite amazing really. I wore it diving in the Maldives and apart from the strap falling apart after a few years it's never had any problems.
 
Ta for the above.... all noted. Including the explanation of that word I'd never heard of.:)

Was interested that you mentioned silicone grease as I've been doing for years but always thought it was a bit "against the rules" and not approved. I try only to apply a smidgen - but doubt Rolex would approve.

Point taken re. the strap. Ta.
The silicone grease helps keeping the seal supple and ensuring the waterproofing/water resistance (if the back came to press against the case because of high pressure; don't know if I'm clear...), so greasing is a good practice in my opinion, and I'm pretty sure that when opening a watch for a minor work such as regulating a movement, a watchmaker regreases the seal. On the other hand if you don't scubadive...
 
The silicone grease helps keeping the seal supple and ensuring the waterproofing/water resistance (if the back came to press against the case because of high pressure; don't know if I'm clear...), so greasing is a good practice in my opinion, and I'm pretty sure that when opening a watch for a minor work such as regulating a movement, a watchmaker regreases the seal. On the other hand if you don't scubadive...
This. It also reduces shearing force against the seal when you screw the back down against it. Silicone grease is indeed the stuff to use a tiny amount of.

Slightly off topic, Vostok watches have a novel approach here - the back is keyed so that it can’t rotate and the seal is like a big rubber doughnut. A locking ring is screwed down onto the back which is then pressed non-rotationally against the seal eliminating shearing force and allowing the use of a more robust rubber ring.
 
Collected the Citizen Eco-Drive from Argos on Sunday and one of the straps from Ali Express arrived today (the green £4. 60 one). Really quick considering it's from China. The website isn't especially tricky to navigate and they did respond to a message when I changed one of the the sizes on the order for the cheaper straps which haven't yet arrived.

Pleased with both. The Citizen strap is quite rigid but will probably soften in time. I like it but can see it's not for everyone. Still haven't seen it at a better price (£79.99) and have spotted it at lots more.

Would now be confident to order from Ali Express but will also go back to order something from TimeFactors. Probably this ... http://www.timefactors.com/tfnatobondtwist.htm as was discussed earlier.

Thanks for advice.


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Really impressed by the service at AliExpress. Several of my orders are here.

Two Mr Neng "two piece, NATO style" straps arrived today and a previous Mr Neng order got here a week ago. Great service and the quality of the items looks super. Cheap as chips. Vast range of colours, styles etc. Amazed how the Chinese can do it ... all postage included in the price.... amazing!

I have a spare Pulsar which needs a new glass and movement and will get it off to 'InTime' in my local Debenhams and get him to do it. I have two more identical watches (as seen in earlier pics) and they've been out of production for many years and rarely seen now so am happy to spend a few bob on it. ... and it can enjoy one of the newly acquired straps :)

As usual the forum has come up with plenty of ideas and inspiration (and cost me a shilling or two) :rolleyes:

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Lastly ... (hopefully) ... I see that Natos on Timefactor or Watchgecko are 290mm or 300mm ... certainly no less than 280mm
Whereas on AliExpress most are around 260/265 for sizes up to and including 20mm - with the length, sometimes, increasing a bit for 22mm and above.

OK I realise the AliExpress ones are cheap but surely they know that other sellers have longer straps - and the Chinese are great at imitating and reproducing others, so why are they shorter. I have one that measures 260mm and, to be honest, it's too short so I cut the flappy (keeper, is it?) bit off and use it as an RAF style, which is OK.
 
^^ Yes, I suppose so.

I have seen that there a few different techniques to use a NATO (one with the extra flappy bit as opposed to the RAF style which, seemingly, doesn't.)

And because of the shortness of the two recently received from AliExpress I've pursued the method wherein you only thread one thickness under the watch and double the flap back on itself and in doing so the bulk of the hardware is diametrically opposite the watch as opposed to being on the side - and in doing thew shortness isn't a problem as it just about tucks under one of the rings. I saw this on Youtube and maybe it was mentioned here too... TBH if it was it slipped my mind.
 
Update ... six new watches and a brace of NATOs and two piece nylon straps.

The blue and orange Casios were about £12 each delivered (one from China). The beige face Kinetic Pulsar was from a Rubicon Ebay auction and was £44 + £3 p&p. The big green face Pulsar was £34 (discontinued bargin) and The Citizen Eco Drive was from Argos - £79.99 as was mentioned above.

Most of the straps were a couple of quid delivered from China.
It's been a bit of fun.... thanks fellas.
 
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