Seygus Zeppelin

I have one of the original aluminium Seygus razors (2015 model) with the removable weight, and it's done me well over the years.

I'm planning to get the Zeppelin, and although they offer a handle, of which I think they have only a few, at an additional €42 or so, I already have so many of the things that it'll be a "head-only" thing for me.

They're good people to do business with, as well.

Update
I've ordered and paid for mine, and it should arrive next week. It is the first to go to the UK so, rather out of character, I seem to have become a bit of an "early adopter". Reviews will follow.
 
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My experiences with the Seygus Zeppelin until now.

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This is the first version, with a bladegap of 0.3 mm on one side and a bladegap of 0.5 mm on the other.

What is immediately striking are the beautiful curved shapes and the sleek, polished appearance-a feast for the eyes.
The blade's short sides don't protrude - a plus that I've only observed at IKon.

On Tuesday, 20190108 - almost a month ago - I started to try this razor.
In that period I used 7 times a different razor than the Zeppelin: Seygus Extrem SB (4x), ATT S2 (1x), Rockwell 6S (R5 plate-1x), Timeless (0.68 - 1x).
Total of 22 times the Zeppelin: 2x with the 0.3 mm gap, 20x with the 0.5 mm gap.

With both sides of the razor the shave is very comfortable: one doesn't feel the blade and it is practically impossible to hurt oneself.
The result is fine: nice smooth, almost BBS (full BBS doesn't exist according to me).
I think the bladegap is somewhat too small, it may be somewhat less mild - especially the 0.3 mm side is too mild.
With a larger bladegap probably an even better result is achieved with less effort.

Meanwhile, the Zeppelin V. 2 has been launched - bladegaps 0.5 mm and 0.7 mm.
The concept of different bladegaps has been maintained - this is a conscious choice (which I would not have made).

For further tests (especially for me) 2 custom shaving heads are made: 1 with a bladegap of 0.7 mm on both sides, and 1 with 0.9 mm on both sides.
More on that later.
 
Worth mentioning is that Seygus sent this from Spain on Monday 4th February, and the courier was ringing my doorbell on the Suffolk coast at lunchtime today, Wednesday 6th. I was kept informed of progress end to end.

That's some remarkably speedy delivery, for which many thanks to Gustavo at Seygus.
 
First outing with the Zeppelin head.

New Sputnik blade, Zenith synth barbershop brush, and the last vestiges of P&B Obsidian, whipped up in a Giles Shaving bowl.

As I'd postponed shaving until the Zeppelin arrived from Spain, it had a bit more stubble to contend with.

First WTG with the .7 side whipped most off, and I could have left it at that, and felt well-shaved. However, I soaped up again and had another run over with the .5 side, which in my case is a mix of XTG and ATG in some tricky places. That removed any remaining rough patches, and all was done.

When using ether side, the razor is as smooth as silk, with no tugging, catching or blade feel; so much so, that I wondered if it had done anything in the first pass. I was a bit surprised, and very pleased, to find that it had done about 85% of the work already. I give it top marks for both efficiency and smoothness.

The head isn't as heavy as some stainless ones, such as Ikon and Timeless models, but it's no lightweight, at 41g. I found it balanced perfectly with a titanium 90mm handle, and the whole set-up had quite enough weight to be able to shave with minimum pressure, which is what I prefer. It might be even easier with a stainless handle, but I certainly didn't need any extra weight. I may, out of interest, try it with a heavier handle, but, for me, it doesn't warrant one.

The head is, as I expected, very well-machined, and polished to a mirror finish on all outward surfaces. As @Jan Zoethout has observed, the blade tabs are within the cap, a la Standard and some other makes, which I find a desirable feature. The post threads are perfectly formed. The baseplate is etched, in elegant fonts, with "Seygus", "Espana", "316L" and the model, which is "Zeppelin V2" on mine. Also etched on either side are the blade gaps; "0.5" under the plain safety bar, and "0.7" under the scalloped. Obviously, you can tell at once which side you're using depending on the bar.

The novel feature, which I guess is the origin of the name, is the curvature of the baseplate and corresponding curves on the top cap. This is so unusual, and outside my experience, that I really have no idea what contribution it makes to the efficiency of the razor, but one way or the other, the razor shaves as well as my best "straight" models (principally Timeless, Blackland and Standards), and far better than most of the rest. The ends of the head are also "curved", in a mix between curves and slight facets, which gives it a very neat look.

The head is presented in a neat, brown leatherette pouch with the Seygus logo, name and "Zeppelin", and this is a nice touch.

Whilst the Zeppelin would probably work just as well for some people with both sides being one or other of the blade gaps, I do like the different gaps. Firstly, there aren't many new razors about configured like this, and, secondly, they work for me as being good for the first and subsequent passes. If you prefer one gap over the other, there's nothing to prevent you using just that side, but you'd probably need to even out the blade wear by turning it around. It's the sort of "smooth efficient" razor, where I suspect quite a few people might unwittingly use the "wrong" side, yet still achieve a perfect result.

To complete the Iberian theme, and in honour of the razor's place of birth, the finishing touches today are Myrsol "Plastic" aftershave and "Emulsion" balm. Unfortunately, I've recently finished my Adolfo Dominguez "Vetiver Hombre" EDT, so it's a Spanish trio rather than quartet.

All in all, I love it.
 
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First outing with the Zeppelin head.

New Sputnik blade, Zenith synth barbershop brush, and the last vestiges of P&B Obsidian, whipped up in a Giles Shaving bowl.

As I'd postponed shaving until the Zeppelin arrived from Spain, it had a bit more stubble to contend with.

First WTG with the .7 side whipped most off, and I could have left it at that, and felt well-shaved. However, I soaped up again and had another run over with the .5 side, which in my case is a mix of XTG and ATG in some tricky places. That removed any remaining rough patches, and all was done.

When using ether side, the razor is as smooth as silk, with no tugging, catching or blade feel; so much so, that I wondered if it had done anything in the first pass. I was a bit surprised, and very pleased, to find that it had done about 85% of the work already. I give it top marks for both efficiency and smoothness.

The head isn't as heavy as some stainless ones, such as Ikon and Timeless models, but it's no lightweight, at 41g. I found it balanced perfectly with a titanium 90mm handle, and the whole set-up had quite enough weight to be able to shave with minimum pressure, which is what I prefer. It might be even easier with a stainless handle, but I certainly didn't need any extra weight. I may, out of interest, try it with a heavier handle, but, for me, it doesn't warrant one.

The head is, as I expected, very well-machined, and polished to a mirror finish on all outward surfaces. As @Jan Zoethout has observed, the blade tabs are within the cap, a la Standard and some other makes, which I find a desirable feature. The post threads are perfectly formed. The baseplate is etched, in elegant fonts, with "Seygus", "Espana", "316L" and the model, which is "Zeppelin V2" on mine. Also etched on either side are the blade gaps; "0.5" under the plain safety bar, and "0.7" under the scalloped. Obviously, you can tell at once which side you're using depending on the bar.

The novel feature, which I guess is the origin of the name, is the curvature of the baseplate and corresponding curves on the top cap. This is so unusual, and outside my experience, that I really have no idea what contribution it makes to the efficiency of the razor, but one way or the other, the razor shaves as well as my best "straight" models (principally Timeless, Blackland and Standards), and far better than most of the rest. The ends of the head are also "curved", in a mix between curves and slight facets, which gives it a very neat look.

The head is presented in a neat, brown leatherette pouch with the Seygus logo, name and "Zeppelin", and this is a nice touch.

Whilst the Zeppelin would probably work just as well for some people with both sides being one or other of the blade gaps, I do like the different gaps. Firstly, there aren't many new razors about configured like this, and, secondly, they work for me as being good for the first and subsequent passes. If you prefer one gap over the other, there's nothing to prevent you using just that side, but you'd probably need to even out the blade wear by turning it around. It's the sort of "smooth efficient" razor, where I suspect quite a few people might unwittingly use the "wrong" side, yet still achieve a perfect result.

To complete the Iberian theme, and in honour of the razor's place of birth, the finishing touches today are Myrsol "Plastic" aftershave and "Emulsion" balm. Unfortunately, I've recently finished my Adolfo Dominguez "Vetiver Hombre" EDT, so it's a Spanish trio rather than quartet.

All in all, I love it.
I totally agree with you, with one exception: I prefer the same bladegap at both sides.
Excellent review ! :D
 
First outing with the Zeppelin head.

New Sputnik blade, Zenith synth barbershop brush, and the last vestiges of P&B Obsidian, whipped up in a Giles Shaving bowl.

As I'd postponed shaving until the Zeppelin arrived from Spain, it had a bit more stubble to contend with.

First WTG with the .7 side whipped most off, and I could have left it at that, and felt well-shaved. However, I soaped up again and had another run over with the .5 side, which in my case is a mix of XTG and ATG in some tricky places. That removed any remaining rough patches, and all was done.

When using ether side, the razor is as smooth as silk, with no tugging, catching or blade feel; so much so, that I wondered if it had done anything in the first pass. I was a bit surprised, and very pleased, to find that it had done about 85% of the work already. I give it top marks for both efficiency and smoothness.

The head isn't as heavy as some stainless ones, such as Ikon and Timeless models, but it's no lightweight, at 41g. I found it balanced perfectly with a titanium 90mm handle, and the whole set-up had quite enough weight to be able to shave with minimum pressure, which is what I prefer. It might be even easier with a stainless handle, but I certainly didn't need any extra weight. I may, out of interest, try it with a heavier handle, but, for me, it doesn't warrant one.

The head is, as I expected, very well-machined, and polished to a mirror finish on all outward surfaces. As @Jan Zoethout has observed, the blade tabs are within the cap, a la Standard and some other makes, which I find a desirable feature. The post threads are perfectly formed. The baseplate is etched, in elegant fonts, with "Seygus", "Espana", "316L" and the model, which is "Zeppelin V2" on mine. Also etched on either side are the blade gaps; "0.5" under the plain safety bar, and "0.7" under the scalloped. Obviously, you can tell at once which side you're using depending on the bar.

The novel feature, which I guess is the origin of the name, is the curvature of the baseplate and corresponding curves on the top cap. This is so unusual, and outside my experience, that I really have no idea what contribution it makes to the efficiency of the razor, but one way or the other, the razor shaves as well as my best "straight" models (principally Timeless, Blackland and Standards), and far better than most of the rest. The ends of the head are also "curved", in a mix between curves and slight facets, which gives it a very neat look.

The head is presented in a neat, brown leatherette pouch with the Seygus logo, name and "Zeppelin", and this is a nice touch.

Whilst the Zeppelin would probably work just as well for some people with both sides being one or other of the blade gaps, I do like the different gaps. Firstly, there aren't many new razors about configured like this, and, secondly, they work for me as being good for the first and subsequent passes. If you prefer one gap over the other, there's nothing to prevent you using just that side, but you'd probably need to even out the blade wear by turning it around. It's the sort of "smooth efficient" razor, where I suspect quite a few people might unwittingly use the "wrong" side, yet still achieve a perfect result.

To complete the Iberian theme, and in honour of the razor's place of birth, the finishing touches today are Myrsol "Plastic" aftershave and "Emulsion" balm. Unfortunately, I've recently finished my Adolfo Dominguez "Vetiver Hombre" EDT, so it's a Spanish trio rather than quartet.

All in all, I love it.

Nice review. What would you compare the 0.5 & 0.7 gaps to?


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Nice review. What would you compare the 0.5 & 0.7 gaps to?


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Difficult question. The .5 feels rather similar to my ATT R1, which I think is actually just under .6. The .7 side reminds me of the Option 5 razor, which is about .7, but I also get a similar sensation and result as the Standard, where the blade gap is about .8.

I'm one of the "blade exposure (BE) also matters a lot" school of thought. In the Zeppelin, the curvature of the edges of the top cap means that it has very little BE at the ends, which gradually increases towards the centre. This is the same on both sides, and I think may partly be why this can perform so well. Then, of course, there is the curvature of the cap and baseplate, which means that the clamped blade then follows the slight curve, rather than being clamped in straight, as with most other razors, other than some humpback or slant types.

All these curves are difficult to explain, but @Jan Zoethout 's photos in the first post in this thread give a good idea. I'll also get my macro lens out and try to get some photos with a blade installed.

It would also be nice to know some of the design rationale direct from Seygus.
 
Zeppelin with blade loaded, to show curves. Sorry about the moiré in the photos, but this appears after having to resize them downwards to be acceptable.
 

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Zeppelin with blade loaded, to show curves. Sorry about the moiré in the photos, but this appears after having to resize them downwards to be acceptable.

Thanks for your detailed response. The curve is pretty unique on the head. I don't think I've seen that before on a DE. I did have an option 5 razor previously. I remember it being not overtly aggressive but smooth and efficient.


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