Wickhams tallow shaving soap to be produced ?????

Even if basic economics I am not buying the kill them because we care idea, actually prefer kill em because I do not care ignorance, but this is not the right forum we are probably breaking the rules as we speak :)
 
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Boru62 said:
Moralising is all well and good but it won't butter no parsnips.
The average dairy herd in the UK is 143, and the average beef herd is 88, who is going to feed, house and care for 143 or even 88 cattle with no financial reward?
So for the sake of the livestock in the UK, I think it's Wickham's duty to make a tallow soap.
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I've said it before but I shall say it again, there is enough room for tallow and non tallow soaps, Whickhams is not considering just making tallow soaps from now on, that would be counter productive, but it makes perfect sense to make both tallow and non tallow therefore cornering 100% of the shaving soap market, tallow for those who like to use tallow and non tallow for those who don't.
I can't see what the fuss is all about. Vegans and non vegans can shave together in perfect harmony.
Nuff said. P.
 
Nisse said:
Even if basic economics I am not buying the kill them because we care idea, but this is not the right forum actually we are probably breaking the rules as we speak :)
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What veganism equates to is extinction (or near as damn it) because you care???
Blademonkey said:
I can't see what the fuss is all about. Vegans and non vegans can shave together in perfect harmony.
Nuff said. P.
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My sentiments entirely.
 
I guess he could make a tallow but would there be demand? I mean his veggie formula produces a pretty decent cushioning lather. I mean Nanny's does both though not tried her tallow so why not Wickhams?
 
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At the end of the day, vegetarians (I am one) would generally prefer to avoid dead animal parts in their products, but it is not strictly necessary to do this - this is one of the differences between being vegetarian (generally speaking, not eating dead animals) and veganism (avoiding any and all animal derived products in every aspect of life). Hence, vegetarians usually don't avoid cow's milk, which is a product with cruelty-to-produce connotations even though no animal death is directly involved. It's this killing of the animal which tends to be the motivation to be vegetarian, and this includes by-products, though most vegetarians will still buy/wear leather, so the whole thing is somewhat confused.

There are, of course, many shades of vegetarianism, and also people who don't call themselves vegetarian but largely avoid certain types of meat (red meat comes to mind), and the tallow/no tallow preference comes down to a person-by-person view on what is acceptable or attractive. I am sure there are numerous vegetarians who use tallow based soap - as they are not following a strict vegan regime.

I don't see that Wickhams is a brand which appeals to vegetarians in particular, but possibly vegans feel it trustworthy. As vegans are so very few in numbers, it makes poor business sense to be the one that serves that market by design, and though I personally won't buy any because I don't think it's nice to smear dead animal on my face (my personal view), Wickhams should absolutely be making tallow based products.

I'm not making any judgement or arguments here, just pointing out facts - each to their own I say.
 
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