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STOP PRESS!

It turns-out, after re-analysing and seeking professional opinion on the weather forum (by that, I mean the impression of someone who has made a career in meteorology), that I wasn't far off after all. I hereby renounce my hasty decison to cease posting in this thread.

To clarify, this morning's models indicated an earlier and more rapidly-developing switch to mild south-westerly winds than I suggested yesterday. It now appears that this will happen from around Tuesday/Wednesday of next week, with temperatures rising first in the south-west, but the unsettled conditions (wetter and breezier) drifting down from northern Scotland. This set-up may last for quite a while; if this winter's background state in terms of global patterns was more average, I'd say that with a degree of confidence, but such background signals are contradictory and unusual this year, so it may be that it lasts for 5-7 days only, with colder conditions possibly following shortly after mid-month (from around the 17th or so onwards).
 
I live in America, and for the last few months the weather reports for my area have been getting even more ridiculous every day then usual. Turns out they have been using this "European made weather map"...
 
Bezoar said:
I live in America, and for the last few months the weather reports for my area have been getting even more ridiculous every day then usual. Turns out they have been using this "European made weather map"...
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Not quite sure I get what you mean. Forecasters on both sides of the Pond use all the major models (American, European and British), pluds others to determine forecasts; indeed, the main European model has proven consistently superior in terms of accuracy of output for several months now.
 
the European model will show my state as being under a major rain system, wont see a cloud or drop of rain the whole duration of the European modeled rain system... that's accuracy.

But then again the local weather idjits, can even tell me if it rained YESTERDAY or not
 
Bezoar said:
the European model will show my state as being under a major rain system, wont see a cloud or drop of rain the whole duration of the European modeled rain system... that's accuracy.

But then again the local weather idjits, can even tell me if it rained YESTERDAY or not
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The major European model (ECMWF) is, like the others, a global model. I, as a total amateur, wouldn't use it for local/regional forecasting, and I doubt any reputable meteorologist would, at least in isolation. Who does your regional forecasts anyway?
 
Come on Chris, give me the real lowdown on what effect the HAARP installation using Tesla technology is having on the jetstream. If you can't tell me without having to kill me then just keep supplying what you're doing.

JohnnyO. o/
 
JohnnyO said:
Come on Chris, give me the real lowdown on what effect the HAARP installation using Tesla technology is having on the jetstream. If you can't tell me without having to kill me then just keep supplying what you're doing.

JohnnyO. o/
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Sadly, Johnny, there are plenty who are convinced that it is doing hideous things - it does cause extra-bright regional auroras, which the US military has confirmed, but is a drop in the ocean globally. It's like the "chemtrails" conspiracy; people don't (or won't) understand that some contrails last longer than others, depending on wind shear, humidity and temperature at altitude.

https://www.wired.com/2009/07/mf-haarp/?currentPage=all
 
Ah, but what about the metal particles ' they ' have seeded the atmosphere with ? It's said it's to assist below the horizon radar, but ...

On the other hand, I trust you and you do sound quite reassuring.

JohnnyO. o/
 
JohnnyO said:
Ah, but what about the metal particles ' they ' have seeded the atmosphere with ? It's said it's to assist below the horizon radar, but ...

On the other hand, I trust you and you do sound quite reassuring.

JohnnyO. o/
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Are you referring to silver iodide cloudseeding? It's been trialled extensively, and is popular in China to encourage clouds to dump moisture in the form of rain before they get to large outdoor events and to scrub the atmosphere of smog, but there's little evidence to suggest that they do much at all to affect weather or damage anything.
 
To be quite honest, this sort of stuff is out of any area I've paid much attention to, and I'm wary of getting involved in such discussions as feelings often run high. I tend to subscribe to Hanlon's razor ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity", or, in this case, innocent actions). I can't prove that such things don't exist, but I'm not aware of any good evidence that they do, so I prefer to retain my scientific scepticism. In general, I'd prefer to reserve my activity in this thread for meteorology as opposed to geoengineering or climate change.
 
Just give me a heads up if you see serious winds heading for West Scotland and I'll appreciate it m8. Being near the coast we're vulnerable to gales and localised flooding on occasion.

JohnnyO. o/
 
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